Obama Revolution

My law school professor friend Jeff Baker (AKA JRB) addresses the Iowa Obama Revolution. I would blog about this but am feeling a bit blue about Hillary R. Clinton’s third place finish. He wrote a great piece here on his blog.

Here is part II of JRB’s run about Obama.

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24 thoughts on “Obama Revolution

  1. I no longer worry about Republicans. That race is not real. I guess in the end this election will be a win win for me. Even if HRC does not win which means no Bill, us leftist get a pretty liberal Obama.

    Please, no Nader. He has done enough damage.

  2. None of them really impress me. I’m pulling for Edwards, but I still don’t trust any politician right now. Of course, that’s probably because I’m reading a book that is essentially a expose on the CIA’s attempts to subjugate the economies of developing nations, so right now everything in politics seems pretty evil to me. But who knows? Maybe there is a real jewel among the frauds. I heard that one of the less-well-known Democratic candidates was purposefully excluded from the debates because his views offended the media’s coporate sponsors. That’s creepy, if you ask me.

  3. Oh, yeah, and what makes you say that about Nader? I thought he was just a liberal trying to stray away from partisan politics.

  4. I’ve never liked the Clintons. Although I fear the consequences when Obama’s camelot-type bubble bursts, he does seem to promise a reorientation of American politics that may finally deprive of power the conservative ruling coalition that has been in place since the election of Reagan. and that held Clinton hostage through eight minimally productive years (lots of legislation, but little that Reagan would have opposed actively). The battle now appears to be between Obama and Edwards. Although Edwards is more truly Liberal, he is the underdog. Hillary’s renewal of her attacks on Obama are shovelfuls of dirt from her eventual grave.

  5. James:

    I agree with you on Obama — the ride ends soon. As for weakening conservatives, in essence, I think they are going to it to themselves. Look at their division. Of course this will only last until mid term elections..

  6. Edward,

    I’m not sure that the Obama ride will be ending soon. The Clintons, Bill in particular, have stepped up their criticism of Obama in recent weeks but it hasn’t had any impact on his surging popularity. Presently, Obama’s style is defeating Hillary’s substance. This is not to say that Obama has no substance, I believe that he does. But, what has happened to this point (it’s still very early) is exactly what I thought would happen once the real campaigning and voting started. Most people don’t vote the issues, they vote for who they”like” the most. And many people, Democrats included but especially Republicans and Independents, just don’t like Hillary. In a campaign where she’s up against two extremely charismatic candidates, she’s struggling to connect with voters outside of her base. If you watched the speeches following the Iowa Caucuses, you caught a glimpse of what she’s up against. Obama was brilliant, Edwards was his usual charismatic, populist self, but Hillary seemed stiff and lukewarm at best. Granted, she was probably reeling from her third place finish, but she needed to fire up the troops. I have a few other thoughts on her “emotional episode” yesterday and her follow-up comments she made this morning regarding said “episode” but I’ll post that after you’re able to comment.

  7. Obama’s bubble:

    I was thinking more of the mid-term elections in 2010.

    Obama looked good to a lot of people after his speech at the Democratic Convention in 2004, but was polling behind Clinton until recently. Now he’s won Iowa (not significant for delegates), will win New Hampshire (also small), and should be the presumptive nominee after super Tuesday.

    If Huckabee gets the nomination for the Republicans (not as clear yet), Obama will win the very ugly election that will bring out many arguments that should make us all ashamed (particularly revealing some fault lines in American culture regarding race and religion–Having seen how Huckabee played the Mormon card, what should we be prepared to see regarding Obama’s family?).

    These are wild predictions, and I could be wrong. I anticipate that 2008 will be interesting, but interesting does not always bode well for the sort of unity Obama is laboring to promise.

  8. Well…the New Hampshire Primary is over and color me shocked and awed. It’s difficult to say how tonight’s events will impact the race. On the one hand, HRC has come back strong and perhaps stopped Obama’s momentum. But, at the same time it has become a race that was never supposed to be close at all. After two states, I would have to think the Obama camp is still feeling pretty good about themselves. A solid victory in Iowa and a strong second in NH is nothing to be ashamed of at this point.

    The addition of James Carville to the Clinton staff will have an impact. Say what you want to about him, the man is an exceptional strategist. I still worry about Hillary in the general election, and according to the NH exit polls so do Democrats. In an election that should be a slam dunk for Democrats, I just can’t see how they can feel comfortable with a candidate that is so polarizing.

  9. James Carville!

    Is that a joke? You think he can offer anything to a race that already offers the intellectual insight and wisdom of Huckabee’s Chuck Norris!?

  10. Marc (good to hear from you)

    I once thought the Obama ride would be ending but I have changed my point of view; he will win South Carolina, though I am surprised about the N.H. deal. If I am Hillary, I would be concerned about the numbers. It was close even when a few key Obama demographics did not show. Still, I see HRC with the most national appeal. And, in a recent poll right after N.H., 1/3 of people stated that they would have voted for Bill Clinton if he were running…this is very good for HRC.

    As for Carville, oh he was great. What he did for Bill…

    I think he can help but it is best that he does so from behind and not up front; it might weaken HRC. On the other hand, it might remind people that Bill is with her. His stock continues to increase.

    James stated “If Huckabee gets the nomination for the Republicans (not as clear yet), Obama will win the very ugly election that will bring out many arguments that should make us all ashamed (particularly revealing some fault lines in American culture regarding race and religion–Having seen how Huckabee played the Mormon card, what should we be prepared to see regarding Obama’s family?).”

    Normally I would agree, but I do not see the religious right having as big of a role in this process as they did in 2004 by shifting the focus away from the war and placing it on minor issues such as gay marriage. If Huckabee does this, it might shift moderates toward Obama. I do not see that card working this time.

  11. Edward,

    I think religious conservatives are finding themselves to be more complex than the media presents them, and lots of them are antiwar these days. Nevertheless, in my corner of the desert, there are a lot of secular evangelicals that do a lot of race baiting out of one side of the mouth while saying they are opposed to racism out of the other. These will find a justification to vote against Obama, and Huckabee has already shown that he is willing to exploit similar prejudices. McCain is more complex, as is Romney (but his church has a checkered legacy–the curse of the Lamanites, etc.).

    Last night (while New Hampshire was proving that I’m not Nostradamus), I read Hunter S. Thompson’s “A Southern City With Northern Problems,” The Reporter (1963); rpt. in HST, The Great Shark Hunt (1979). He could have substituted the name of almost any Western American city for Louisville and published the essay today with minimal revision. If my read of my community is accurate, it does not bode well for Obama, or for any sort of end to the culture wars that divide the US.

    I hope I’m wrong.

  12. I do not want Hillary to be president, and before all the females yell at me it is not because she is a women i just don’t like her views.

  13. Oh Edward,
    Hillary? Where did I go wrong? I would have bet good money that you liked Ron Paul…As for myself, I am drawn in by the flashing lights at the Obama fun-house. Perhaps, if he wins, they will rename Alabama to “Alaobama” in his honor. (Probably not, but I couldn’t resist the joke).

  14. Jeff Grooms — I like her socialist health care policy; I like her husband; I am tired of white men holding that spot, which means no Ron Paul. Plus, I am not too sure about his currency discussion.

    James Stripes — I agree with you about the religious demographic and Northwest community; still, it seems as though their numbers are too small. When it comes to religion in America, dealing with the South is the key; I do not see the as major actors in this election. In your part of the country and mine there are those who do not hold progressive views, but that is population that has not had a major voice in national elections. Thank God for the electoral college.

  15. The Republican canidates leave me wanting for a real conservative. We have McCain and Huckabee running on the Republican ticket when they should not even be considered Republicans. Huckabee is a liberal in every aspect except the abortion issue which I don’t care about. For me, just supporting Christian values does not make you a conservative. It is ones other positions that I believe makes one a conservative. McCain likewise is a Republican in name only. He supported amnesty for illegal immigrants and campaign finance reform as well as a host of other liberal policies. The only thing he has remained conservative on is the war.

    The only chance Republicans have at winning this election is by nominating a true fiscal conservative who remains true to conservative beliefs. If they nominate a moderate social conservative such as Huckabee or Mccain, many Republicans who would otherwise take the time to go vote for a strong conservative will stay home instead of voting for a weak Republican candidate who believes in many of the same things as their Democratic opposition.

  16. You must be in pain; I am not sure Huck and McCain are conservative enough. I am sure that is why I like them. Of course I have no intentions on voting for them. All of the Republicans have campaigned on the notion of fiscal conservatism. They have stated that they will not increase taxes, and will limit spending which is wise seeing that a recession is around the cornor. Ok, they might need to cut all of us a check in hopes that we will spend it and not save it. There will be no Republican in the White House this time. You need to leave the dark side of the force.

  17. Ok, now I’m really ticked. It gets even worse when one looks at the individual canidates positions and how they manage to stuff it all under the umbrella of “change.” I don’t think most of the people my age even understand that “change” can go both ways. Oh, and that new voter bribery bill. If the government has the money to pay us all back, why the heck did it make us give the money to them in the first place.

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