Aggressive Politics


President Barack Obama speaks to reporters during his meeting with Democratic and Republican leaders, Friday, Jan. 23, 2009,  in the Roosevelt Room of the White House. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)AP – President Barack Obama on Friday struck down the Bush administration’s ban on giving federal money to international groups that perform abortions or provide abortion information…  an inflammatory policy that has bounced in and out of law for the past quarter-century. Obama’s executive order, the latest in an aggressive first week reversing contentious Bush policies, was warmly welcomed by liberal groups and denounced by abortion rights foes. (from the AP)


14 thoughts on “Aggressive Politics

  1. Do any of you understand that it is safer for those war criminals in Guantanamo Bay Penitentiary? The general population in common prison is very judgmental. Rapists, Pedophiles, and Homosexuals are typically the top of the chain of undesirables to the Neo-Nazis and Eastern Hispanics in many of todays top security prisons. Can you imagine the bloodshed that would occur when a mass murderer of thousands of innocent civilians (or even just a conspirator with them) is inserted into the general population? Of course you can’t, because all wars can be averted right?

    However, I would say that the conditions at Guantanamo are much more humane than some of the crimes that that have occurred to Americans who were captured in Iraq:

    Sergeant Donald Walters was initially reported to have been killed in the March 23 ambush of the 507th Maintenance Company. However, witnesses later reported that they had seen Walters being guarded by several Fedayeen in front of a building. Forensics work later found Walters’ blood in front of the building and blood spatter suggesting he died from two gunshot wounds to the back at close range. This led the Army to conclude that Walters had been executed after being captured.

    Also on March 23, a British Army engineering unit made a wrong turn near the town of Az Zubayr, which was still held by Iraqi forces. The unit was ambushed and Sapper Luke Allsopp and Staff Sergeant Simon Cullingworth became separated from the rest. Both were captured and executed by Iraqi forces. In 2006, a video of Allsopp lying on the ground surrounded by Iraqi irregular forces was discovered.

    Marine Sergeant Fernando Padilla-Ramirez was reported missing from his supply unit after an ambush north of Nasiriyah on March 28. His body was later dragged through the streets of Ash-Shatrah and hung in the town square. His body was later taken down and buried by sympathetic locals. His body was discovered by American forces on April 10.

    That’s just to name a few. I hardly think that some of the “information gathering” techniques that are practiced in Gitmo amount to the public torture and, in some cases, beheading, of American POWs who were simply protecting the interests of millions of ungrateful Americans. Don’t you think that it says something about the character of most of these inmates when their own countries reject repatriation filings? These criminals do not deserve trials, they were doing something wrong and knew it, and now are hoping to get hypocritical human-rights activists to stand up for them. The sad part is that it is working.

    I have noticed something funny though. As Obama has been more informed of the high security information that only our Commander-in-chief is allowed access to, he has changed his his tune numerous times. During his 2008 Presidential campaign, Barack Obama described Guantanamo as a “sad chapter in American history” and promised to close down the prison in 2009. After being elected, President Obama reiterated his campaign promise on 60 Minutes and the ABC program “This Week.” On 12 January 2009, the Associated Press reported that Obama plans to issue an executive order during his first week as president to close the detention center, although the closure may not be complete within his first 100 days as president. The fate of the remaining inmates would then be determined. On 20 January 2009, President Obama stated that in fact he would sign the documents to close Guantanamo Bay, and as of midnight on 21 January 2009, he ordered the government to suspend prosecutions of Gitmo detainees for 120 days in order to review all the detainees cases to determine whether and how each detainee should be prosecuted. A day later, President Obama signed an Executive Order stating that Gitmo would in fact be closed within a year.

  2. Oh, and before the bloodshed, yes most of this post was gathered from various sources but copied verbatim from Wikipedia. I did take the time to validate them before posting though.

  3. Information gathering? Patrick – do you know what waterboarding is? And do you know that the Geneva convention clearly states that “no physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion,” may be used for interrogation?

    The scariest part is that waterboarding is what they have ADMITTED to.

  4. Patrick- I don’t care what other people and countries do. God is going to ask ME about MY actions. I have to take responsibility for them and our nation isn’t responsible for other nations’ behavior, particularly in countries where we marched over and begin to blow things up, including a remarkably large number of innocent people. In addition to these things, the people at Guantanamo Bay have NOT YET BEEN CONVICTED, which means that you cannot yet call them terrorists. Additionally, I don’t believe that any of us have mentioned that we believe that all wars can be averted. While I can’t speak for anyone else, I know that I would prefer that we start with talking, particularly with nations like Afghanistan whose problems with helped to create, and then move on to force when necessary. We cannot start with force. Again, we have to take responsibility to for only our actions, so this mentality of “everyone else is doing,” is ludicrous. Even if someone is not a Christian and doesn’t have beliefs about judgment from God, then they at least realize that in our current world system, we are only held responsible for our own actions.

  5. Josh, if you are seriously that concerned about it, then I suggest that you don’t use any medical facilities in the United States that take taxpayer money and perform abortions. That might not go so well for you on account of the fact that pretty much all hospitals do both of those things, but perhaps you can be extremely lucky and never have need of a medical facility. I don’t like abortion. Let me repeat: I don’t like abortion. More than anything, I don’t like that our current climate leaves so many women feeling like they have no other option. I’m also not comfortable judging anyone who has been a victim of rape or incest and found themselves with child since I have never been in that position. That being said, I’ve also never been a lot of things that I still feel comfortable judging. I also find it necessary to point out that from 2000-2006 we had Republican control of Congress, the White House, and a conservative Supreme Court and nothing was done to change any abortion laws on the books. I’m not advocating abortion. I’m advocating thinking clearly about our current climate and realizing that as the laws haven’t prohibited abortion, perhaps we need to do all we can to create an environment that keeps people from having them as best we can.

  6. Luke- I read your blog series on abortion and found it very well thought-out and thought provoking. Thanks for taking the time to do that.

  7. The funny thing about Guanta is that my Uncle is currently in Afghanistan building an equivalent of Guanta ver. 2.0. Secondly I agree with kristisweeny. Yes abortion is often seen as murder of an innocent life. However, placing heavy restrictions on abortion forces the practice in a more “underground” which could mean the tools could be seriously low in cleanliness standards, or the actual procedure could be dangerous to the mother (sterility, tearing the canals, etc.). I’m not a girl so I do not know what goes through the mind when pregant through rape or something else. However, it would be nice to know that the government is looking out for me no matter my decision and that, hopefully, they are willing to show me other alternatives.

  8. I could understand why liberals would want to fund domestic pro-abortion organizations…but in this case Obama has added a foreign obligation when we are in the middle of an economic crisis.

    So liberals do not like to step into other countries when bombs kill innocent civilians, but have no issue with stepping into other countries to kill innocent babies?

    /runs for cover

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